Guilt, Shame, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves- Part 1
In this first episode of a two-part series, the Spiritual Not Religious crew explores the difference between guilt and shame—and why confusing them can quietly shape our identity, relationships, and mental health. Guilt tends to focus on behavior (“I did something bad”) and can open a path toward honesty, repair, and growth. Shame sinks deeper (“I am bad”) and often thrives in secrecy, people-pleasing, defensiveness, and harsh self-talk. Along the way, the hosts reflect on how shame can become trauma, why naming what we feel gives us power, and how empathy and safe community can shrink shame’s grip. Part two will look more directly at how religion and the church have used guilt and shame historically—and what healing might look like now.
Creators and Guests
Host
Mollie June Miller
Hey Y'all, I'm Mollie June Miller, the director and campus minister at the Wesley Foundation of UT Martin. I am passionate about young adults and the way the divine is moving in their spiritual life. Come & see!
Host
Shawn Winburn
Hey friends! I am more or less just a big goofball trying to connect a loving and purpose-filled God to young hearts that wonder if such a God even exists. I have a Masters degree from Duke Divinity but feel like my real credential is compassionate listening. I love having conversations around theology and belief and what that means for all of us. Also, I really enjoy good coffee, craft beer, being outdoors, finding waterfalls, historical fiction, driving my Jeep, hanging with my mid 20's kids, and adventuring with my amazing wife, Melisa, and our precocious Portuguese Water Dog Poodle Mix, Saba. .
Producer
James Henry
Hey! I am a spiritual seeker and the pastor of Dulin United Methodist Church in Falls Church, Virginia. I'm so thankful my good friends Shawn and Mollie invited me to be part of the podcast!!
